I hired Lewis Painting based primarily on the only Angie's List report on Lewis Panting, at the time. I was a bit skeptical relying on only one report but, it gave such high praise that I thought Lewis Painting must be good. That was a big mistake. I have no idea how that previous paint job described in the other report, which was an interior paint job, actually looked but, I have no doubt that the owner was accurate in her description and satisfied with the results. My job, however, was an exterior job and, beside painting, it involved lots of fairly simple carpentry and an additional small plumbing job. The owner of Lewis Paint told me that he took pride in his work. After all, he said, it's his name connected with the results. I don't know how he feel about his name but, I wouldn't want my name attached to work like this. They all seemed to be likable guys but, as painters they are sloppy, as carpenters they?re incompetent and as workers they are unprofessional. One of them told me that that he didn't think two coats of paint would cover any better than one coat of paint. They are more like boys using hammers and brushes and calling themselves Professionals. They left the job with bare wood exposed in some places. New wood was supposed to have a primer coat and two coats of color paint. That means that they missed some spots all three times. There were splatters and splotches of paint on all sides of the house and the porch, too numerous to count. They left the new still tacky paint scraped off the window panes at the bottom of the sills. Now it's stuck there and needs to be scraped and repainted. Some of the glaze was so poorly applied that when I opened the window, it rolled up and fell off and wasn't even painted. Their putty applications to fill gaps and cover large mars are sometimes more noticeable than what they were trying to hide. The most grievous thing they did and the most dangerous could have potentially been grounds for a law suit. There was an outside light fixture with a cover over it. They removed the cover and never replaced it. They left an empty light socket uncovered and facing upward. When I looked at it, it was full of water. I don't know what would have happened if I flipped on that switch to the light socket containing water, before I checked their work. I think it's lucky for Lewis Painting that I did not. They included the plumbing job because they said it would only take about an hour. The job was to cut and relocate some of the hot water heat pipes. I told the "plumber" of the group that he would have to bleed the pipes (remove any air pockets) when all was reconnected. He said no problem, he knew what to do. The one hour job took him a day and a half. That really didn't bother me but, a few days later when it got cold at night, the heating system that Lewis Painting worked on, was not working. Luckily I had two electric heaters so, I was all right that night. However, I had to call a real plumber who bled the system properly. Now my heat works as it should. The last thing they worked on was the front porch supports and railings. After two days, they only had one post in place. They were having trouble with the other two because the posts were twisted. I showed them how to untwist the columns. It took us about an hour. Than I left them to place the railings and finish the job. When I looked at the completed job, the only thing that was correct were the two posts that I showed them how to do. All the railings were off. Some as much as 3/4" over a distance of less than two feet. That particular railing was left unfinished as was the trim near it. They, also, left unfinished a drain pipe and they were to install and an extension of the septic vent above the roof line was likewise not completed. Neither task was even begun, for that matter. I was willing to pay them and not have them finish the work because I saw that they were not skilled enough to do any better. The quality of their craftsmanship is just not what one would expect from professionals. I like them personally. They seem like very nice guys. They're just not as expertise in their craft as they think they are or would like to be. And, at that point, I was as anxious to have them leave as they were to go. I didn't even give the job a final inspection. Later, however, before I began this report, I figured I should take a close look at what I was reporting about. What I found, in addition to the previously mentioned, was a yard that was only superficially cleaned. There were literally hundreds of chips of wood and other debris, hundreds of cigarette butts (that they promised numerous times to remove) and dozens of rusted nails and screws strewn about the yard. I wanted to give Lewis Painting him an opportunity to come back to clean the yard properly and to correct , at least some of these flaws before I submitted this report. I contacted Lewis Painting and Lewis did actually came back looked at the points of my concern. He agreed that they are unacceptable and that they should properly be redone. Lewis told me they would be back to redo them. A week and a half later, I call Lewis because nothing had been done. He said he would work it in around his other jobs. It was a Thursday of the next week when I called again because still nothing was done. I said I was tired of this waiting and I wanted the job done by the next Wednesday or I'm reporting on Angie's list regardless. Lewis told me they would be there Mon. Tue. and Wed. evening and make sure it's done right. Monday evening, two of the workers showed up and said Lewis couldn't make it. Than they left. They didn't do anything. Not even clean up some of the mess and debris spread about the yard. That was the last I heard from Lewis Painting. I made a mistake in having Lewis Painting work on my house. Don't you make the same mistake.
Description of Work: The job was to replace all the rotted and weak wood siding, which covered about 2/3's of the house. Along with replacing the siding, all of the trim was to be scraped with deep mars being filled with (I asked for wood putty but, they used some) plastic filler. The windows were to be reglazed (the old cracked putty holding in the window panes was to be removed and replaced) and painted, the front porch iron railing was to be removed and replaced with an old wooden railing found on the property. The concrete porch was to be painted with paint specifically for applying to concrete so it would not peel and the concrete at the base of the house was to be painter also. They told me they would caulk all the gaps, cover any nail holes and fill and smooth major imperfections. They said, when the job was done that I would be proud of the way my house looks. All the leftover wood, all nails, any debris and all of the cigarette butts (they all smoke) would be picked up and the lawn would be clean. When I explained the job to Lewis Painting, I was given an estimate of $8000 to $9000. Later, when I was given the written fee of $9500, I asked what happened to 8 to 9 K. At the blink of an eye, the price was lowered to $8200. A $1300 instant reduction was quite a change. I wondered if the $9500 price was padded or if the $8200 price meant the job would be hurried and inferior. I did not want them to feel like they were working cheap and possibly compromise quality so I told them $9000 would be satisfactory. Later, when I saw that they were using oil based paint for primer coat and that all the painting was being done with a brush, I was impressed. I told Lewis Painting that I would give them the $9500 in the original contract. A few days later when the house had the new color and I saw how nice the house could look, I told them that I'd give them an additional $500, a total of $10,000, if they took extra time to make sure house was really carefully done. Than, when I saw the newly painted siding next to the old siding, even though the old siding was solid, it just did not look good next to the new. So, I told them that I would give them an additional $3000 if they would replace all the old siding. They agreed and the fee was increased to $13000.
Rating Category
Rating out of 5
quality
1.0
value
3.0
professionalism
1.0
responsiveness
2.0
punctuality
2.0
$13,000
Response from Lewis Painting
With only 10,000 words allowed this will be hard. First let me correct the member in saying that the original consultation was for Lewis painting to pressure wash, scrape, sand, replace a few boards of siding here and there, and then apply 1 coat of oil based primer and 2 coats of latex exterior paint (Benjamin Moore). Everything else was added as extras and mostly free of charge. This includes Painting the concrete porch, foundation, and chimney, glaze windows where glazing is missing, remove cast iron railing and re-install original (1850) wood railing and posts, painting all gutters and move one of them, plus a plumbing job in the basement. We told the member that we would caulk where boards met trim edge and window/door casings. The original estimate without measurements or material prices was $8k-$9k. After measuring and compiling a materials list we ended up with a true estimate of $9500. The price was not dropped to $8200 in the blink of an eye. The member spent many moments haggling with us and telling us what he thought it was worth. We dropped to $8200 with the intention of not using as many workers. But $9000 was the price met upon negotiating. The initial bump from 9000-9500 was added by the member because he said " i intend to be extremely picky". The price then went to $10,000, not because the member asked us to take extra time and make sure the house was really carefully done. We dont charge extra for quality. This jump cam as the member asked us to replace even more siding on an already tight budget. The member did not offer us another $3000 to remove the rest of the siding. He asked us to give him a price to do so. Taking not only labor and materials to do this into consideration, but also the fact that labor and materials were already spent to pressure wash, scrape, sand, prime, caulk, fill, and apply 2 coats finish to most of the area in question. With that in mind, we figured additional labor and materials would cost $6000. The member scoffed at this and said " i'll only pay another $3000" . We didnt want to accept this but we were already deep into the project. We decided to EXTREMELY reduce our profit and continue. The only place that bare wood was exposed is on the porch where we did some extra trim ( no cost) and he himself said he would prime and paint that. Putty applications in most areas were done against our advise. these areas are the joints between boards. he wanted them hidden. He was advised on many occasions that this will take away the boards ability to expand contract with the temprature and humidity. He insisted. The other areas for putty were in areas where the member allowed an insulation company to come during the middle of our job to holesaw 3" holes to install blown insulation. These holes were poorly plugged by that company and we did the best we could with it. As for the light fixture on the back of the house, it was simply replace to the position it was in before we removed it. And the "cover" that the member refers to was nothing more than a rotted 2x4 that didnt "cover" anything. The plumbing job did take more time than expected. But the lines were bled properly. The member fails to mention that he continually messed with the valve levers at his own free will. The lines were bled. If there was a problem afterwards he needs to look at himself. This job was done over a month and a half ago, yet until this report came out we never heard of this trouble. Front porch!! Another free of charge extra. We told the member that we would re-install the 1850 wood system as best we could with what we had. After dropping the price from 16k to 13k there just wasnt enough labor money to have somebody do true millwork and fabrication to make it look brand new.The only reason the work took so long is once again the member had to jump in and change stuff up. We knew how to untwist the posts, no lessons needed. the post and rail were right where they needed to be until the member decided to jack up the roof ( which he did improperly) and have us switch everything up.If the pickets are off it is because they are the original 1850 pickets and finances did not allow us to tear apart and completely redo the entire system. The member has two vent pipes that end underneath the soffit. This is causing damage to the paint. It was offered free of charge to cut the neccessary holes to run these pipes through the soffit and roof as they should be. He accepted this but then said he thought they were ok where they are. The member didnt request wood putty be used on the corner boards. We offered to use Ready Patch, a filler made specificly for this. Then the member asked if we would use extra wood siding to completely cover the corner boards. Which we did FREE OF CHARGE. Throughout the entire job the member praised our work and said he LOVED how his house looked. Now suddenly he is so dissatisfied, and he payed us without looking. He payed in full ONLY after a customary final walk through inspection with us. Other than some minor touch ups and clean up he was completely satisfied. We nearly had to beg for final payment. We explained that the extra work at his house really set us back on other customers we were contracted with. If he would give us time to get caught up we would gladly come and wrap everything up. He agreed and released final $1000 payment. Not even a week later the member began to call with rude, and harassing phone calls and using Angies list not as a service but a weapon to threaten us with. He gave a "final ultimatum" that if the work wasnt done by wednesday he would be slamming us on AL. There were many times he used this site as a weapon. We told him that we would fit him into our schedule mon, tues, and wed, evenings WEATHER PERMITTING. Unfortunately it has rained steadily since that tuesday. For $13,000 this man got his house 2/3 resided, primed, beautifully painted, and a whole lot of extras thrown in. Still he has added this report to give us a black mark, PLUS,,,PLUS he has put a 4'x8' sign infront of his house saying we are incompitent. All of this over some minor touch ups and clean up that mother nature prevented. Lewis Painting is an upstanding member of the Wayne County Builders Association, registered with the Pa. Attorney Generals Office( reg.#PA080006). We have been in business for 3and a 1/2 years and have NEVER had a negative remark. We regularly work on homes valued at $250,000 and up. To see a true showing of our work go to our facebook page at Lewis Painting. If you want a list of references, contact us through this site or facebook.
Darlene F.
06/2011
5.0
house painters, interior painters
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They came on time for the estimate appointment and I was impressed when they came with swatches for the inside and the deck. They had done their homework and come by the get a look at the color of the deck. They already had samples similar to what we had on the deck. They showed me pictures of work they had done on complex rooms with two colors and lots of woodwork so I could be assured that they would not ruin our woodwork. I had two other estimates and they were all very similar - so I believe the price was right on target. They came when they said they would come. They moved the furniture, took down all the wall hangings, etc. We did not have to prepare anything. When it was done they replaced the furniture and wall hangings - and everything was in its correct place! They were very neat and professional. The work was terrific. Every corner and wall where it met the woodwork was perfect. The ceiling had been all yellowed stucco - they made it look like new. We did a different color on one of the walls in the Great Room and it looks great. The lines are perfect. When they did the deck it poured rain the next day. It was one of those deluges of rain and washed away some of the paint making spots throughout the deck. I didn't even have to call. Todd called me to see if it was OK and when I told him it was not he said not to worry - they would redo it. They definitely go above and beyond. One time when they were at the house, my husband noticed some holes from a woodpecker on a corner of the house. He was talking to me saying he needed to fix it. Todd overheard and said his Team would do it when they came back to redo the deck. And they did. These guys are pleasant, professional and very fair. I plan to use them again for other rooms we need painted.
Description of Work: Patched and painted interior Great Room, Loft and Basement. Also did the stucco ceilings in the Great Room and Loft. On the exterior they painted the upper and lower decks and the chimney.
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Lewis Painting is currently rated 3.5 overall out of 5.
Monday: 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM
Tuesday: 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM
Wednesday: 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM
Thursday: 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM
Friday: 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM
Saturday: 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM
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Yes, Lewis Painting offers free project estimates.
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No, Lewis Painting does not offer a senior discount.
No, Lewis Painting does not offer emergency services.
Yes, Lewis Painting offers warranties.
Lewis Painting offers the following services: Interior and exterior painting staining & powerwashing.