
Joyce Factory Direct
About us
We are Ohio's ONLY factory direct sunroom and window manufacturer. Since 1955, we have been proudly servicing Northern Ohio homeowners with quality building products and exceptional service. We provide free consultations and estimates to all of Northern Ohio (appointments available Monday-Saturday mornings, afternoons and evenings). We are located in Berea at our factory and have a showroom featuring three full sunrooms, a collection of replacement windows and samples of all of our other products including bathrooms, siding, gutter protection, roofing, kitchen cabinet updating and more! **If you do stop by, please ask about taking a tour of our factory during your visit.
Business highlights
Services we offer
Bathrooms (Walk-in Showers, Entry Doors, Glass Block & More., Gutter Protection, Gutters, Kitchen Cabinet Refacing, Kitchen Updating, Patio Covers, Patio Doors, Patio/Porch/Deck Enclosures, Replacement Windows, Retractable Awnings, Roofs, Screen Rooms, Siding, Sunrooms, Tub to Shower Conversions), Walk-in Tubs
Amenities
Free Estimates
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
- CreditCard
| Number of Stars | Image of Distribution | Number of Ratings |
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| 73% | ||
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The installers did everything that Joyce Factory Direct promised and my wife and I are very pleased with the appearance of our home.
"[Member name removed], thank you for the great compliment! It was our pleasure to work with you and we are so happy that you are enjoying your new windows! We've passed along your review to your sales representative, he'll be pleased to hear about your satisfaction also! All the best!"
Great people and product. These windows are made and sold by Joyce, a 60 year old local company in Berea.
A+ windows and service. They gave me a good price and took time to demonstrate the window before I bought. Kept in touch before and after. Arrived on time on the scheduled date and cleaned up after. The installers were very professional and did a great job. They also make doors. I highly recommend Joyce Factory Direct.
As far as the installation is concerned, I will give them an ?A?. But not for the company itself because one of the windows had a problem, it has a cracked on it. I called the company about it and they said they send their service manager to check and will order another one. That was about a month ago and nothing happened yet. Other than that, the installation was excellent.
Their price is competitive.
First of all the quality of the doors and windows is fantastic. I can't convey how much this renovation changed the entire look of our home. With that being said, make sure you know that you are getting exactly what you want. EX: The salesperson didn't convey to us that the door handle wasn't going to have a lock feature. We've never had new doors so we didn't know this would be an issue. It turned into a huge issue by the time the project was about to be completed. As I said, the product is fabulous, but here's my story.
Windows and doors were purchased at the beginning of August. We were told to expect installation around 9/15.
When 9/15 passed, my husband called to check on installation. He was told he would receive a call the first week of October. I contact our salesperson and he fails to respond (you will see in his email why he didn't respond). I let that go because I figured no big deal, that prolongs payment. We received a call the first week of October and our install was scheduled for 10/27.
Nearly everything went according to plan. There was a caulking error on a window, and the door jam on our front door had a notch in it. The dead bold was scratched and something about the handle didn't seem right. I took pictures and sent to the salesperson. He said no problem, we'll get that fixed for you. At this point, I couldn't even remember the door handle I ordered (so if you choose this company, make them leave you with a picture of the items you ordered). So the new door handle came in, all was great and then I noticed that we no longer had a button/turn lock on the door handle. This was very important to me so I emailed the salesperson and told him that I wanted a locking handle. He ignored my concerns, told me that it was what I ordered. This is when things turned nasty. I told him it was unacceptable, and that I wanted two sources for locking my front door. I admit I could've been a little gentler, but at this point having waited an extra 2 months for everything to be completed, I was not happy.
Here is his email to me:
Hi Robyn...First off, wow, that's a lot of pent up going on there. Secondly, I, in no way, 'took advantage' of anyone...ever. Nor will I ever. There is so much wrong with your email that I don't even know where to begin or how to react to it all. I've worked very hard at trying to make sure your experience with Joyce went well and with as little stress as a person of your stress level can handle. I thought we at Joyce were doing a really good job with all things considered. I guess I'll just reply to all your comments as you listed them and I'll try to be as professional as possible.
The delay in getting the windows installed was a combination of multiple unfortunate and unforeseen events that you could not have been made aware of in advance. I did not respond to your email because when I looked into why it was delayed for so long, the person that I spoke with (who shall remain nameless) said that they would contact you and inform you and keep you posted on the time frame. For not replying to that email and informing you of that, I apologize. The events that took place causing the delay were issues with your association, weather issues with installations prior to yours that moved our time frame back with the installers and your picture window was goofed up during the manufacturing process and had to be completely remade to make sure it was perfect and not half-assed. As for the window sills, it's tough to gauge how much a replacement window is going to affect current sills prior to install. It depends on how much exterior sill and framing is available in order to sufficiently hold the weight of the new window. If there's not enough, then the window has to be installed further in to the framing to help support it (unless a new frame is constructed to 'frame out' the new window.. which is an expensive addition to the project.) In regards to me 'knowing' that your old door handle had a two-lock system, I didn't realize that anymore than you didn't realize that the new door hardware that you picked out had only a push-button thumb lever and no exterior key-hole cylinder, which, in turn, meant it didn't have a lock on it. You spent quite a bit of time looking at the different styles and picked the Addison exterior handle with the Accent interior lever. You made no specifications on the importance of the two-lock system at any point. The only lock that comes with the style of handle you chose would be the deadbolt. As for the 'million options' out there, feel free to go look. Schlage doesn't even make a designer-style handle with a lock on it. There are lesser quality manufacturers who do provide a lock on their designer handles, but, because it's such an unpopular option, you would be extremely limited on styles, color and warranty coverage of that lock. And it's not a matter of Joyce making it right....we made it right when we installed the handle you chose. I ordered what you liked and what you selected. You didn't make clear at any point that the hardware had to have two locks, otherwise I would have directed you to other options and made sure that that is what you would have received. To say I took advantage of you is unfair and completely out of line. I take that as a direct attack on my character. I've been in sales for over ten years and have NEVER had to result to taking advantage of a customer for my own benefit for ANY reason. For there to be a miscommunication between TWO parties and have one blame the other is unprofessional and says very little of the person pushing the blame. Before we take the existing hardware off of the door and you consider any kind of change, I suggest you take measurements of the hardware on the door and go to Lowe's or wherever you would feel more confident and look into their options. I will also contact ProVia, the manufacturer of our door, and see if there would be any warranty issues with putting on someone else's hardware. I certainly don't foresee that being any kind of issue. In my opinion, which I'm sure at this point doesn't mean a hill of beans to you, I would leave the door as is. It looks great and for the number of times in which you would actually need to use the double locking sysytem it would probably not be worth the hassle. There are times and possibilities when the interior lock gets 'bumped' or accidently locked while you're walking out the door and now you're outside with a locked door and no key. And on the contrary, I honestly don't think anything is screwed up. I think the choice you made for the handle looks elegant and is very functional for the door. The deadbolt is there to provide the security. Hopefully you'll reconsider your viewpoint on the situation and realize that Joyce has done a very good job on the project as a whole. At no point were you taken advantage of and at no point will we stop trying to make sure your complete satisfaction is the ultimate result of this project. We worked hard with your association and with you regarding the color setup and trim issues of the windows and we'll continue to work hard to make sure you're satisfied with your entry door. After nearly a month beyond the install, it is right.... just how you selected it, I ordered it and it was completed. Please let us know how you'd like to proceed with your pursuit of a new locking exterior handle and how we can assist and bring this project to a finish for you.
Although the price was higher than other estimates, we feel that the end product, and the fact that construction was completed on time as promised, were definitely worth the money. We would not hesitate to use or recommend Joyce Factory Direct in the future.
"Thank you (Remove member name) for the wonderful review. We enjoyed working for you! All the best!!"
We would definitely recommend them to our family, friends and neighbors. This is the third time we have used Joyce Factory Direct and plan to use them again in the future. They aren't the cheapest company but we believe you get what you pay for. They told us that they do not carry any low-end price point products. And, after working with them multiple times, they are definitely well worth a little bit more than a cheaper alternative.
"Thank you again [member name removed]! Your home turned our fantastic, we are so happy that you are pleased with the work! Take care!"
Joyce had to send a second crew, who re-did over half the work. This took 2 additional days.
I have had them back out once since to fix another problem that came up. It took two phone calls for them to respond and send a repair person out (I called them one week and never heard back so I called them the second week).
Overall it was a very frustrating experience. The good is they took accountability for the poor work and worked to resolve the issues. The bad was the very poor work that was done, the inconvience of having to keep track of and point out all the issues and initially conviencing them that there was a serious issue. They felt the damage to my landscaping was 'the cost of doing business' even though it was careless on the crews part (and not an accident). I actually had to argue with them to get restitution.
"Hi {removed member name}, I am very sorry for your experience. I can tell you that your review was one of the reasons that we made personnel changes within our production department. Your main contact on the project and the crew that did your job are both no longer with us. I know it takes time to give a review so I appreciate your input, and I feel terrible that your experience was a bad one. This is a rare experience for us and all of our other crews are fully accountable and do very good work consistently. Our average crew has over 17 years experience, one of our crew foreman has been with us since 1984 (celebrating 30 years with us). The crew that did your job must have had a bad day, that's my only explanation that makes sense. Previously they did some very good work. But, their work on this project was unacceptable and did not meet our expectations and obviously not yours. Again, I am sorry for your experience if you need anything please do not hesitate to contact us. Todd Schmidt, President"
First and foremost I would like to share the room is very lovely. I also want to note for the most part themen working on site were professional. MThe majority of issues were in regards to the internal project person i along with the woman who works with him. . The challenge arose regarding the services provided by them.
Some of the concerns: and middot;
I drove across town to obtain samples for the outside features so the process could be expedited to order the materials. We
choose from the samples given what we wanted only to discover the sample was not available for the use I was told it could be used for. Delay in ordering. Even though he has much experience working for Joyce he was clueless regarding the options available to us, yet gave us the choices we were to make.
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It was advised that we probably would not need a building permit and we signed papers indicating we would not come-back on them if it was discovered we needed a permit. (Shame on us for signing the papers; feeling they were the ‘experts’ our trust was they offered the best advice.) Alas we were visited by the city with all of their labeled trucks in the drive and a hostile neighbor and the project was ‘put on hold’ for a prolonged period of time before the paperwork was completed. (Project was signed in September, did not get completed until middle of January d/t poor communication, “emergencies they needed to attend to on other projects” and weather.
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They were advised numerous times we both worked and if someone was needed to come to the home to have access to basement circuits etc we would need to coordinate those efforts. Alas, the communication came at 4 pm the night before that they were coming and there was a lot of running around to get someone at the home. They do not have a process in place
to obtain all of the demographic information to effectively communicate with you such as best times to call, work phone numbers or even if e-mails would suffice.
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I was told on a Wed. the men would be out on a Friday to place internal doors in place. Arrangements were made to obtain home
access. I spoke to the men working on the room on Thursday when they were about to leave to indicate I would have someone there on Friday for the doors and was advised the doors had not even arrived, it would probably be Monday . Why was i told they were in and to be installed on Friday?
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It seems the city advised Joyce that a deck was needed for the outside door. This was not discussed with me until I called when
one of the men advised me that cement had to be poured. The internal project person had arranged for the deck addition without discussing with me and installed it according to what they ordered. The back door to the sun room is outside my kitchen and now I had a deck and steps place right in front ofmy bay window. Had we done it correctly the first place with city involvement I would have moved the door down one more set of windows and had the deck stoop further away from the window. As per usual, the men working on the project were fantastic at trying to provide service recovery options to satisfy the city requirements and my aesthetic needs.
It appears there is no “punch list” indicating simple things like :
Best time to communicate and log of communication and communication attempts
Best way(s) to reach you
Goals for payment (We were told when project was completed, does this not include a final inspection?)
On-going communication to assess the satisfaction of the customer regarding the project.
Suggestions for electrical/outdoor lighting options
Hours they work both in the office and out in the field. The project person left messages at 3:50 pm for the next day activity and I would call at 4:15 to discover he had left.
The Web site indicates hours:
Monday 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Tuesday 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Wednesday 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Thursday 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Friday 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Saturday Closed
Sunday Closed
Effective communication regarding completion of project and coordination with the city
and payment. We were initially advised Joyce and the city would come out for a final inspection. We were just threatened with being taken to collections for not paying the final $4000. City has not been out to put their stamp on the project and we have all kinds on materials and debris all over our yard form lack of clean-up. We were also just advised that they do not come out for
a final inspection, it is just the city that comes and the city has up to a year to do their inspection. Due to poor communication they were not even aware the mess in the yard had not been removed.
It was not until money was due that my continuous voiced concerns with my internal contact were finally taken seriously by the people inside. This started with the marketing person who advised me if I did not pay for the external stoop/deck he would not get his paycheck. I received then a call from the Vice President and then the President. I was advised the President would take ownership for his process to assess the internal man and not having a process in place to assess customer satisfaction. It was a nice gesture that he called to assess my dissatisfaction with the internal project person however it was very late in the process. .
"Hi [removed member name], Thank you for your detailed feedback. I do remember having a nice discussion with you. I think you will be happy to hear that we've made some drastic changes to our production department and the person you are referring to is no longer employed with us. There are more details that I cannot discuss on here, but we have implemented many of your suggestions and our communication has improved dramatically since making a certain personnel change. That employee did some things very, very well but unfortunately sometimes customer care and communication were lacking and we tried to correct that but it never met our expectations and needs and more importantly it obviously did not meet yours. If you ever need anything, please do not hesitate to ask. Thank you again, Todd Schmidt, President"
"Hi [member name removed], Thank you for the positive review. We appreciate the time that you took to do so. Enjoy the rest of summer. Take Care, Todd Schmidt President, Joyce Factory Direct"
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