I do not understand the customer claiming to be dissatisfied, he wrote me an email praising us and even asked if we would be interested in doing the work for their neighborhood, I will try and attach a copy. [Member Name Removed]called in on July 20, 2015, originally stating that he had plugged in an Air Conditioning window unit to the same circuit as attic fan upstairs and a breaker tripped and won’t reset. Our Office Manager set the service call for the next morning at 7:30 and the tech arrived promptly at 7:25. Upon the arrival of our technician, [Member Name Removed] proceeded showing him all different parts of the home, none of which were remotely related to the issue at hand, which did hinder our progress slightly. The Window unit he had plugged in was in a makeshift room in the attic above the second floor and the window unit was venting into the attic, not outside the home as it should. The service tech checked the power leaving the circuit breaker, and was it was fine, not saying there was nothing wrong with the breaker, but sometimes when they work intermediately like that you cannot tell there is a problem with it, unless you happen to be checking it when it is not allowing the flow of electricity through it. The Tech then began trying to trace the circuit and locate the problem. The whole time [Member Name Removed] was shadowing over him questioning and giving his “advice” on what he thought needed to be done. This slows down a technician greatly as he is trying to work. The service tech did actually find an issue with the wiring and the circuit feeding up had lost a neutral conductor somewhere between the panel box on the first floor and the attic (third level). Needless to say the home had some “shade tree mechanic” construction and wiring going on, I have a picture of that I will attempt to attach to this reply as well. The service tech did explain he needed a new circuit from the panel below to this room upstairs for it to operate properly but it would be costly due to the amount of time it would take to run it up there and offered to have a quote done. The customer asked if there was no other solution, and the tech suggested abandoning the circuit feeding that outlet, and come off another circuit already in the attic (third floor) and the customer agreed and the tech ran the new wire from the power source in the attic and the circuit was operating properly when the tech left. The Tech was in [Member Name Removed] home for 6-1/2 hrs., we only charged him for 4 hours and the material we used. His Total bill from us including tax was $490.86. The customer called back approximately two days later stating the circuit was not operating as it should and could we come back and check it. The tech returned to the home and there was a wire loose in a junction box in the attic, he made the connection and again when we left all was working as it should and the customer was not charged for a second trip since the tech could not say for sure if it was something he did or not. We never heard back from the customer until he called back on September 9, 2015, actually he emailed me, with pictures, saying the wiring we had worked on was again not working and made mention of my “Inexperienced electrician”, when actually the tech we sent had told [Member Name Removed] he had only worked for me for about 3 months, which is true, but he has over 9 years of experience working for other contractors before working for me and had gone through the 4 year apprenticeship program, same as the union, except for it is a Merit shop program through the Associated Builders & Contractors based on performance, not tenure. Anyhow after looking at the pictures [Member Name Removed] sent, I noticed the surge protector he had plugged in had a light glowing on it signifying that it had power, and I pointed this out and asked him to verify and let me know prior to us sending the tech back out. He checked it and emailed me back stating that it was in fact operational and his wife had been the one who told him it didn’t work and he never check it for himself. [Member Name Removed] then emailed me again on September 22, 2015 stating that he was again having issues and that the power was on and off again sporadically. I emailed him back the following day letting him know I was out of town until the following day but that I would check with my technician to see if I could determine what might be happening and get back with him. He replied back that he wanted to speak to me and would come by my office, which he did unannounced. When he showed up, around 1:30, he was told that I was in a meeting with several other persons working on an issue that had a deadline of 5 o’clock that evening, and it could possibly be a while before I could get away and speak with him. His exact words to my office manager were “I don’t have anything else to do today, surely he will be done by 6”. Well it was approximately 4 o’clock before we finished our meeting, and even then I still had paper work that needed to be notarized and placed in the mail. When I spoke with him I asked him what exactly it was he needed to discuss with me because without me actually being on site at his home, I could not shed any more light on this. His response was “I just wanted to see your reaction to see if this was a concern to you or not”. I asked what he meant and he never would say. We discussed the work previously on his home and he voiced his concerns over the inexperience of the technician, and I again told him the tech had almost 10 years of experience and has done an excellent job. I told him if he would let me know when was convenient we would gladly return and look further into the situation. He then told me, and this is not a lie, “I have known all along what the problem is, I just wanted to see if your guy could figure it out and I would have fixed it I just didn’t want to get up there and sweat.” He then walked out of our office saying he had this, he would handle this… One thing I wanted to point and was that he claims he got the better deal off the other contractor, but we were there 6.5 hours, 7.5 if you count the return trip and including material and tax charged him $490.86. Covington Electric who was there only 2 hours and only material they listed was (5) 110V Outlets, (these are $3.50 cost, you can buy at Home Depot) but their bill with tax was $306.13. It would appear they charged him over $20 a piece for $4 breaker, something we charge $6 for. And if in the end it was just a breaker that obviously worked sporadically, that would have most likely been our next thing to change out at a much cheaper cost. See email copies below, I was unable to attach any pics: From: [Member Name Removed]l Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:11 PM To: Clay Sutherland Subject: Re: RE: Re: May the Lord Bless your Business. [Member Name Removed] Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ________________________________________ From:"Clay Sutherland" Date:Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM Subject:RE: Re: [Member Name Removed], Thank you for your kind email. I am glad your outlets are functioning properly, and if you do ever need our assistance in your home, please do not hesitate to contact us. Also If you would ever need our assistance with your Neighborhood Association work we would be honored to assist you if you ever needed us. Best Regards, Clay Sutherland 201 S. Perkins St. Ridgeland, MS 39157 (P) 601.607.7700 (F) 601.982.2151 Call Us Once…. Use Us for a Lifetime…! 1 Corinthians 4:4 / Romans 1:16 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This email and any attachments may be confidential and protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender and deleting this copy and the reply from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From: [Member Name Removed] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:48 AM To: Clay Sutherland Cc: Nick Sutherland; Amy Graham Subject: Re: Clay, I had a chance to read your response to my letter and was vary pleased with your professional and Christian approach. This is how we all want to be treated . I checked the wall outlet that I wrongly accused Trey of not hooking up, only to find out it worked perfectly. My wife said it didn't work and I did not realize I never verified it. ( My mistake !!! ) Trey was also correct in that the wiring seemed unprofessional; even though it passed our home inspection with flying colors. When he came back out because the house AC unit would not come on the second time and said that it shut off because the attic thermostat switch shut off- which shut down the home AC unit, I began to suspect the quality of Mississippi electricians. It sounded like he had connected the home AC outlet to the negative power side of the thermostat switch so when the attic cooled down the switch ( which fed the AC unit) disconnected the power. These concepts of what happened lead me to be concerned and added to my misinformed belief about the wall outlet not working, pushed me to contact you. Trey and his helper removed the wall window AC unit and took it down stairs for me, so this will not be any source of future problems. The 3rd floor home AC unit that Trey worked on seems to be working well. If you are satisfied after double checking with Trey about how he connected the circuitry I am satisfied and we don't need your company to come back out. Thanks for the $257.00 discount , I was aware that your company didn't charge me for it. This leads me to my last question. Would Sutherland Electric like to be contacted to bid on future work for our Wood Lake Subdivision, my wife is on the board and we are always looking for good contractors ? Best regards in the Lord, [Member Name Removed] Sent from Yahoo! Mail for Windows 8 From: Clay Sutherland Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:27 AM To: [Member Name Removed] CC: Nick Sutherland ; Amy Graham Subject: RE: [Member Name Removed], Thank you for your email, I will look into this matter directly and after I investigate it I will be back in contact with you. See the below on what issues I am aware of at this time concerning matters of importance concerning work done on your home. I do know that Trey (John Hillhouse) was at your home for (6.5) hours the day of your service call (we have GPS locators on all of our vehicles) and you were only charged for (4) which is a discount of about $275.00, plus we returned, as you noted, when there was an issue with the AC plug and he corrected the wiring which you were also not charged for. Trey is a reliable electrician and may have only been employed here for 4 months when he came out to your home, but he has over 9 years of experience in the electrical industry, his experience was not an issue. Also his helper was only employed here for a short time, but has worked for his fathers A/C company for approximately 4 years prior to starting his employment here. Trey did have some concerns, which is why he called our office, about some of the “unprofessional” wiring that was in place, unfortunately we did not have another tech available to come give a second opinion. He also noted that he discussed with you the fact that it really needed a new circuit ran to it from the panel downstairs but that would be very time consuming and costly. You were in favor with the quick fix of coming off the existing circuit that was feeding the attic roof ventilator. After looking at the pictures you sent yesterday it looks as though the RED display light is functioning on the Surge Protector, not sure if this may just bea glow from maybe the camera flash or if it is actually on. If this is the case and the light is on, it would mean that there is power to the outlet and that the surge protector itself is inoperable and that the outlet in fact is functional. If we return toyour home and it turns out that in fact the outlet is functional, you would be charged a service call for the trip out, so please verify this prior to our coming out if you are able. I did speak with Trey this morning before he left to go catch service calls,and he said that he put the existing wiring back in place as it was and that he feels very confident that the wiring to that outlet is in place as it was previously and not left disconnected. From the second picture, I see the wiring in the attic that Trey was concerned about. I am not sure why someone would have bypassed the thermostat controlbox in the first place for the attic roof ventilator fan, or why they would have used a ceiling light mounting box in place of a proper sized electrical junction box. I can see now why Trey had some confusion on which conductor he needed to terminate the wirefor the A/C outlet. I would say that most likely the reason your desk lamp dims when the A/C unit comes on is because they are either on the same circuit since we were limited as where to obtain a power source, or it is on the same neutral conductor. Treydid note that the A/C unit being used is technically a window unit and it is just venting into the attic as opposed to the exterior of the home as it is intended. This will cause the unit to work harder and possibly overheat and cause a strain on the circuit and possibly a breaker to trip. You may want to contact whomever installed it for you and make them aware of what type unit appears to be in place. If you would like a quote to run a new dedicated circuit for the A/C unit we will be happy to, but you will need to have the correct type A/C unit in place for that of installation where the unit vents directly into an attic cavity. Thank you for your business and for taking the time to contact us concerning these matters. I will be in contact in a few days after I have time to go back through your file and speak with Trey more in depth concerning other issues involving this matter. Have Blessed Day! Clay Sutherland 201 S. Perkins St. Ridgeland, MS 39157 (P) 601.607.7700 (F) 601.982.2151 Call Us Once…. Use Us for a Lifetime…! 1 Corinthians 4:4/Romans 1:16 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This email and any attachments may be confidential and protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender and deleting this copy and the reply from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From: [Member Name Removed] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:55 PM To: Clay Sutherland Subject: Clay, On July 20th 2015, you sent John D.Hillhouse III out on out service call ( work Order/ Invoice # 2110)( job No.15244-Braker Tripping) We had a barker that would not reset, turns outthatthe circuit had an interruption in a natural line that terminated to awall outlet ( 110 v receptacle located under a 3rd floor desk) John disconnected this wall outlet from thedead line, which perversely suppliedpower to our house air conditioner outlet. Now this outlet is not connected to anything and we just discovered it-hadhe let me know it was not connected we would have had him reconnect it ( may be he forget). Wepaid him for a complete job - he was being rushed by your office ( as he said)to get on to the next service call and we got short changed. The fix The closest 110 V power he could find to the attic AC was an overhead attic fan automaticthermostat switch, he called the office for advice and I suggested that he ask forsomeone with more experienceto come out and advise him ( he said he had 4months with Sotherland and his helper had 9 months) . He tried but none wasavailable . He proceeded to jumper fromthis attic fan switch (connected to negative side of the thermal switch -by mistake)and fed thispower to the air conditioner attic outlet. It was hot and thisrestored power to AC unit and we were glad to pay him for the work we thoughtwas completed. The next day or so we noticed the AC unit wasnot working- no power to the AC conditioner outlet and we placed a service call.You sent John back out and he realized his mistake, saying that whenthe atticcooled off the attic fan thermostat turn off and disconnected the AirCondition unit outlet . So he reconnected thejumper to the positive side of the attic fan switch and it seemed to solved theproblem. John did not bill me for this work because hesaid it was his mistake- I thanked him. Now I have noticed that every time the AC comeson my desk lamp dims ( it is on the same circuit ) ? I would like Sutherland Electric, Inc. to finish the job I paid forand reconnect my dead wall socket. When I searched on Angies list I selectedSutherland Electric because of your A rating. Please give me a call to discuss this further . Thanks for your service, [Member Name Removed] Sent from Yahoo! Mail for Windows 8