Allen Outdoor Solutions

Lawn Irrigation, Landscaping, Pavers and Hardscaping,

About us

Additional DBA - Allen Irrigation & Lawn Care Inc. Allen Outdoor Solutions, Inc. has provided full service irrigation, landscape, and lawn care service throughout the St. Louis area for over 20 years. Our projects range in size, from small residential designs to large commercial projects. No matter what your vision, we can take care of every aspect of your outdoor project. All of our work is backed and fully warranted to your satisfaction.

Business highlights

31 years of trusted experience
Emergency Services Offered

Services we offer

Irrigation/Sprinkler Systems, Landscaping, Drainage Systems, Landscape Lighting, Lawn Care and Maintenance, Retaining Walls, Synthetic Turf, Patios/Walks/Driveways, Lawn Renovations, Water Gardens, Bed Mulching, Leaf and Snow Removal

Services we don't offer

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Amenities

Free Estimates
Yes
Warranties
Yes
Emergency Services
Yes


Accepted payment methods

American Express
Check
Discover
Financing Available
MasterCard
Visa

Photos of past projects

Reviews

4.6202 Reviews
Number of StarsImage of DistributionNumber of Ratings
5
74%
4
9%
3
6%
2
5%
1
5%


Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.6
value
4.4
professionalism
4.6
responsiveness
4.6
punctuality
4.6

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Showing 101-202 of 202 reviews

George A.
05/2013
4.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
Steve Allen spent a lot of time explaining the installation and design when providing the estimate, which he supplied on the first visit. The installation was on time and they were reasonably good at not disturbing the lawn and garden. Later we found out they'd severed a clematis vine while installing the controller wiring, which they replaced with one of the same color. There was also a leak in a copper joint near the backflow valve, and in repairing it, another leak was created underground, which was repaired on the second attempt. At all times Neal (operations supervisor) and other staff were responsive to our calls and apologetic for the issues, though it took some time for resolution. The system is now working fine
Description of Work: Installed sprinkler system.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$4,200

Guruvayurappan S.
05/2013
5.0
outdoor lighting, irrigation systems
  + 0 more
Everything went as per our expectation
Description of Work: Got our irrigation system winterized

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$75

Lisa K.
05/2013
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
Allen provided a very thorough estimate package for our irrigation system. We would have been happy to work with Allen, but received a proposal from a competitor that uses similar materials & layout that was approximately 20% lower, so we chose to go with that company.
Description of Work: We requested an estimate for an irrigation system for our yard.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
4.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

Response from Allen Outdoor Solutions
We appreciate the positive comments. Allen Outdoor Solutions is very competitive when it comes to sprinkler install and service prices, so there must be a logical reason we were that far apart. The equipment we use is a step above others and the design that was presented had additional heads that the homeowner was not sure she wanted at the time of presentation. We were not given the opportunity to revise the design. Thank you for the review!

Tyler L.
02/2013
5.0
landscaping, irrigation systems
  + 0 more
We liked everything they did. I do recommend you get a landscape design first that you like and then bid it out against vendors. Then you can find the cheapest that fit your needs.
Description of Work: I did use Allen Outdoor Solutions for landscaping and irrigation.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
4.0
punctuality
4.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$10,000

Amanda M.
01/2013
5.0
concrete repair, hardscaping, mulch
  + 1 more
There was initially miscommunication at the time work was performed, which led to a delay in some pending jobs. The manager who oversaw the project no longer works for the company and most likely did not communicate outstanding work with other staff members to complete the job before he left. Since then, the company president made a personal visit to ensure all problems were corrected. We are happy with the results as his staff went above and beyond to make the entire yard look great instead of just fixing the agreed upon area around our tree. Miscommunication happens from time to time, I am pleased that Allen Outdoor Solutions takes pride in their company and will do what it takes to make the customer happy. I intend to use their services again.
Description of Work: Below is the description of work as outlined in the actual contract: “ Scope 1: Remove walk, apply sealer to garage foundation install rail road ties and add soil to garage side of large tree, including drain. Total cost for labor and material: $945.00” “ Scope 2: Re-grade area on opposite side of tree. Install natural stone steppers to create path around tree and to the area for new fence and gate. Total cost for labor and material: $750.00”

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
4.0
punctuality
4.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$1,700

Response from Allen Outdoor Solutions
In response to the January review by the members, as the owner of the company I met personally with them on Sunday February 10, 2013 to review their concerns. Not knowing that there was an issue on site, I explained to them that the salesman/landscape manager was having personal family issues and left the company about the time that they were trying to contact Allen Outdoor Solutions. It was also explained that Joel Green was the assistant to the salesman and that any correspondence he received was to be redirected to the salesman. Had they met Joel they would know that he is far from rude but was merely relaying messages to the salesman. Joel’s demeanor (mildest demeanor employee that I have) must have been taken out of context when discussing their concerns. I explained to them that the removing of the railroad ties was not part of the contract and sometimes decomposing ties can be lost underground. We looked up and referred to the dates April 25th estimate, May 15th Proposal & Design, Accepted agreement July 17th, July 23rd & 24th work completed. Spring time is our busiest time when landscape designs are requested or needed. Although they did not go with the full landscape there was still time needed to do the design. This was a small job but we treat all jobs and customers as equals. I feel that this was an unfortunate misunderstanding combined with bad timing of a departing employee. We have agreed to return to lower the drain and to do a cleanup of the leaves on site the week of February 11-15, 2013. I discussed with the homeowners doing future landscape business come spring 2013. Thank you, Steve Allen

Bryan D.
01/2013
4.0
lawn service
  + -1 more
Allen Outdoor was very responsive and professional. Their shrub and aeration work was also excellent. Regarding our lawn repair, they could have used higher quality soil in the grass planting. Although the grass has grown in most areas, some will need to be replanted.
Description of Work: We asked for lawn and shrub care.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$200

Andrew F.
12/2012
5.0
gutter cleaning
  + -1 more
It went ok. They came and cleaned the gutters.
Description of Work: Cleaned gutters.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
4.0
responsiveness
4.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$69

alan S.
12/2012
5.0
hardscaping, lawn service, irrigation systems
  + 1 more
We've used them quite a bit and have been very happy with them and everything.
Description of Work: We've used Allen Outdoor Solutions twice over the summer and fall and my son also used them twice this fall. They installed a sprinkler system and then we had them comeback to do the summer leaf prep and aerating. They also installed a sprinkler system,a concrete wall, and put down sod for my son.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$3,000

Maurice P.
12/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
The completed job was done in a highly professional and quality manner. Very pleased with the result.
Description of Work: Allen Outdoor Solutions designed and installed a complete lawn and garden irrigation system for our home. Although the date of install was a few weeks later than was originally stated, when the crew performed the install they did a quality professional job. Steve Allen, company owner, was involved from day one with the development of the original estimate through to the follow-up the day after the system was installed. I highly recommend Steve and his team.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
4.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$4,000

Judith M.
11/2012
5.0
concrete repair, landscaping, hardscaping, lawn treatment, irrigation systems, tree service
  + 4 more
It went very well. We are very pleased with the results, with the possible exception of selection of plants.
Description of Work: We had an old courtyard in very bad shape. We wanted it turned into a garden. This meant taking up the concrete, leveling, paving, creating flower beds, putting in a lawn and planting trees and plants.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$20,000

Amelia D.
10/2012
3.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
We contracted with Allen Outdoor Solutions for an irrigation system for our front lawn after reviewing roughly 6 different proposals. Most were similar in price but Allen Outdoor seemed a bit more responsive so we thought that the follow up customer service would be better. While they were most responsive in the sales phase, follow up visits were less than satisfactory. It took almost 3 months before they followed up with the rain sensor we were due. Then, when it came to winterizing our yard, I called to set up the appointment. I indicated to the person who scheduled that I could meet someone between 9:30 and 2 p.m. at the VERY latest as I have to pick my son up from school. The person who scheduled me said the technician could do the task between 12 and 12:30 and she said she would note the time constraint. They never called to confirm the appointment. Today, at 12:45 I called to find out what how much longer the technician would be and the person on the phone indicated that they don't schedule people for specific times. I indicated that I was told otherwise. I called several times trying to nail down a time. I got off the phone with the person in the office at 2:15 and indicated that I could meet the technician at 3:30. She said he would be there at 3:30. At 2:16, I was going to my car to pick up my child at school (and they are NOT lenient with pick up times) the technician pulled up. He was rather irritated that I wouldn't stay to let him into the house and do a couple of tasks. I explained that I had to pick up my son right THEN and that I was told earlier that he could be here between noon and 12:30. He was not happy. He also indicated that HE had FIVE more jobs after mine. He also did not return at 3:30 like the office suggested he would. (Now I was also told by the front office that my job would take 45 minutes and based on the time the technician gave, fitting in 5 more jobs even in a tightly confined would be difficult if 45 minutes is indeed an average service call.) The next time we contract for something like this, we will have written in the contract what the service agreement looks like. Between working part time and handling a family, I don't have time to sit around and wait on service technicians to show up in a 5 hour time frame and/or the front office not being able to correctly indicate what time the technician will be there. Also, I fully expect them to come back out when I can meet them.
Description of Work: We had an irrigation system installed and the system included two follow up visits.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.0
value
4.0
professionalism
1.0
responsiveness
1.0
punctuality
1.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$1,400

Response from Allen Outdoor Solutions
We are similar to cable companies, heating & cooling companies, and any other service company in the sense that we do not schedule specific times for appointments. Our employees that answer the phones and schedule appointments offer 8 AM to Noon or the Noon to 5 PM time slots as well as 1st AM appointments- meaning we arrive as close to 8 AM as possible. During activation and winterization seasons, we offer the same appointments on Saturdays. We apologize that our technician seemed irritated when he was told to leave. He was asking to shut the water off in the basement (takes 5 minutes or less) so he could close the system down from the exterior while the customer was gone. In regards to waiting three months for a rain sensor; after project completion near the end of May, our office manager made many attempts to contact the customer to schedule the final system review and collection of the final contract payment. We were unsuccessful in our attempts to contact the customer until August 17th. At that time, the Mrs. insisted she was due a rain sensor and would not pay the balance until she received one. Though she never contracted for installation of a rain sensor, we installed one at no additional charge (a $150 charge) in attempt to collect the debt. We assumed the customer would be more than satisfied having received a free rain sensor. We feel badly that the customer does not have time in their schedule to entertain a five-hour appointment window. In the future, we recommend asking to be the first AM appointment (8 AM) or a Saturday appointment, but these spots are popular and full for weeks in advance so you may have to wait longer for an appointment. Our next appointment with this customer is set for November 20th between 9 AM and Noon; a customized time-frame, as requested. We hope to make Mrs. a happy customer from here on out. Thank you, The Allen Outdoor Team

Lewis C.
10/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
The owner, Steve Allen came to lay out the system, explain options, and discuss cost. References were provided and all were very positive. The work was done punctually and the workers were careful and efficient. They gladly sent out workers several times after the instillation to adjust the system and even reseeded my lawn in areas where they had worked. Steve Allen called and made a follow up appointment to make sure the system was working properly and we knew how to use it. Communications with the office have been cordial and responsive. Overall, they were not the cheapest bid, but they provided the best value for the cost, they know what they are doing, and they provide excellent service.
Description of Work: Install a lawn irrigation system at our home.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$4,000

Jeff H.
09/2012
5.0
landscaping, lawn service, irrigation systems
  + 1 more
The owner apparently handles all the initial surveys and planning. He met with me a couple times to talk about what I wanted and provided a plan and estimate, separating landscaping from turf estimates so we could decide how much we wanted to commit to this year. They came in lower than two other bids and were able to install the week after signing, getting it in before we left for a holiday weekend. We went with 7 zones of landscape-only irrigation and the lawn work was done in a day - a plumber had come a couple days earlier to install the diversion off the water line and backflow preventer. The only hiccup was that I asked for a lien waver and a permit for the plumbing, and the rest of the staff was not in the loop. They came a couple times asking for final payment before I got it straightened out by calling the owner - he provides his card w/ cell number. Although it was a little irritating and showed poor communication, I can give them a pass because the owner got it fixed right away. I guess not many people ask for those things (but should!).
Description of Work: Walked through my requirements, designed an irrigation layout for my lawn, providing a split estimate for our budget considerations, and installed landscape irrigation.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
4.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$3,200

ARLENE T.
07/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
I like that they are available. They are nice. They don't try to sell me additional things. They fix exactly what's wrong. They are very responsive, and they come when I need them.
Description of Work: I used Allen Outdoor Solutions for my irrigation system.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$150

Steve P.
07/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
The entire system was installed in just one day. We were thrilled with the care they took in minimizing damage to our lawn during the installation...and have been completely satisfied with the performance of the system.
Description of Work: Allen Outdoor Solutions installed a 6-zone irrigation system in our yard and gardens. They were only slightly higher in price than another company but we provided much higher quality equipment. The price was still affordable enough that we opted for upgrades to the basic system.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$4,000

Caleb W.
07/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
The previous owner of my home used Allen Outdoor so we decided to give them a try. They did a good job and really know the system that is in place.
Description of Work: Allen Outdoor Solutions takes care of our irrigation system.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

Donnold K.
07/2012
3.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
Nice people, poor communicators. First contact was good and James, the manager, was great during the visit. He even fixed a sprinkler for free and pointed out some issues. However after four follow up calls and a few emails I was still never able to get the right estimate sent over. The estimate I did receive seemed a little heavy: $576 for 12 new sprinkler heads. The estimate did not include the repair to a leak and the repair to the overflow valve, even though I requested this change be made. Nice people and I think they have good intentions but their lack of response led me to do my own repairs.
Description of Work: I called for a bid on sprinkler repair and replacment.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
professionalism
3.0
responsiveness
2.0
punctuality
3.0


Ann G.
07/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
They are professional in every way. They answered their phone immediately when I called and were courteous. We actually had another irrigation company install our system a few years back, but they never called me back when I called to get my system on. This was not the first time, so I wanted a company that would not only respond but also be professional. Our serviceman acted like he had installed the system himself -- he took great pride in what he did and did not rush to get to the next job (I think his name was Rob). He was friendly and professional and did what he was supposed to do. I chose them based on their Angie's List standing and also a neighbor's experience. I will call them again to shut it off in the fall.
Description of Work: They came to turn on our irrigation system, do a backflow check, and repair broken heads.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$160

Lance E.
07/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
Their estimate was $9800. They were very professional and good communication. They showed up when they said they would. They were informative, reassuring and had a good product knowledge. They are high on price and their quality is high.
Description of Work: Allen Outdoor Solutions gave me an estimate to install a sprinkler.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

JOHN M.
06/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
Allen always does good work. Generally have necessary parts on truck when repairs are needed, so no return visits required. Technicians always seem to be well trained when unexpected problems are encountered. Costs are typical for the industry, but seem high when back-flow check is performed at same time as other system maintenance.
Description of Work: Allen has been maintaining irrigation system for several years. Always punctual, provide a reasonable window for appointments, professional, knowledgeable. Updated and repaired 20 year old system one year ago for about $1500 including new heads, valves, controller, and wiring. Technicians licensed for back-flow check, so they don't require a second visit to perform check and system start-up.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$255

Phil W.
05/2012
5.0
irrigation systems
  + -1 more
They did a good job. They are easy to deal with, punctual, and professional. The owner, Steve, is especially helpful. We are excited to have a green lawn even when the weather is dry.
Description of Work: Installed a lawn irrigation system.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$3,500

K P.
04/2012
3.0
irrigation systems, lighting
  + 0 more
I referred to Angie's list for companies to get a bid on an irrigation system and possibly some landscape lighting. I spoke to a woman on the phone last week who seemed professional and pleasant. She said someone would give me a call back about setting a time to come out for the bid. I gave her both a cell phone and home phone number and never received a call back. The company has several good reviews on Angie's List and has a nice website so they were at the top of my list to call. I've called 4 other companies and all called back the same day to set up a time to come out. Since I have 4 other companies to choose from I will not bother calling Allen back. Update: Received a phone call & message from Steve Allen over the weekend on my cell phone, over a week after I originally called the company. I was planning on calling him back to let him know we decided to go with another company but he beat me to the callback and called and left another message a few days later at my home number. He did apologize for not getting back to me sooner but said this is their busiest time of the year and he personally does the bidding and gives a detailed layout/plan on-site for each of his possible customers. He offered to come out to give a bid on the irrigation system but we have already decided to go with another company who also gave me a detailed on-site plan, bid, and spent over an hour discussing the potentials for the project (lighting, irrigation, landscape). Based on the reviews here Allen obviously does quality work so I would imagine most people would be happy using them. For one reason or another my number was lost in the shuffle of the season so I am writing this review as a courtesy to them so hopefully this doesn't happen to another potential customer.
Description of Work: Never performed service because never called back to set up a time to give me a bid. I am giving them a "C" since the lady I spoke with was pleasant.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
responsiveness
3.0


Roger C.
04/2012
5.0
drain pipe, irrigation systems
  + 0 more
This is a top notch company. They did a great job with the sprinkler system and came up with a great solution for some drainage problems with our downspouts. I was very impressed with their professionalism, and will certainly use them again in the future should the need arise.
Description of Work: They installed a lawn sprinkler system and helped fix some problems with my downspouts.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$5,200

Ruth P.
04/2012
5.0
landscaping, tree service
  + 0 more
We received detailed plans, an estimate for each building and suggested types of replacement shrubs and plants. They fulfilled their contract and we were very happy with the work performed. Our contacts with their representatives were very pleasant and agreeable. We made a few changes to our original plan and these changes were accepted with no problem. We are very happy with our landscaping and would hire this company again.
Description of Work: Our condominium board contracted with Allen Outdoor Solutions to landscape a number of our buildings. Old shrubs needed removing and replacement. Some small trees also needed removing.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$8,000

CAROL V.
04/2012
5.0
landscaping, lawn service, lawn treatment, irrigation systems
  + 2 more
I have used them for many years. They are trust worthy. They are very forth coming about the lawn. They are not over baring. The quality is good. If I have a problem, they fix it. They are very punctual. They give you a window of time they are coming. They are very nice and thoughtful. They are professional.
Description of Work: They do the mowing and fertilizing. They turned my sprinkler system on.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

Contact information

7219 Weil Ave, Saint Louis, MO 63119

http://www.AllenOutdoorSTL.com

Service hours

Monday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Tuesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Wednesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Thursday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Friday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Licensing

Bonded

Insured

Licensed*

Trade License Number
LC-28

Eco-friendly Accreditations

LEED Accredited Professional
No
Energy Star Partner
No
EPA Lead-Safe Certified
No
Use Green Products or Work Practices
Yes
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*Contact business to see additional licenses.


Service Categories

Lawn Irrigation,
Landscaping,
Pavers and Hardscaping,
Lawn and Yard Work,
Drain Pipe Installation,
Lawn Fertilization & Treatment,
Landscaping - Lighting,
Concrete Pouring and Repair,
Patios,
Tree Service,
Masonry,
Lighting

FAQ

Allen Outdoor Solutions is currently rated 4.6 overall out of 5.

Monday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Tuesday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Wednesday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Thursday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Friday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Allen Outdoor Solutions accepts the following forms of payment: American Express,Check,Discover,Financing Available,MasterCard,Visa
Yes, Allen Outdoor Solutions offers free project estimates.
Yes, Allen Outdoor Solutions offers eco-friendly accreditations.
No, Allen Outdoor Solutions does not offer a senior discount.
Yes, Allen Outdoor Solutions offers emergency services.
Yes, Allen Outdoor Solutions offers warranties.
Allen Outdoor Solutions offers the following services: Irrigation/Sprinkler Systems, Landscaping, Drainage Systems, Landscape Lighting, Lawn Care and Maintenance, Retaining Walls, Synthetic Turf, Patios/Walks/Driveways, Lawn Renovations, Water Gardens, Bed Mulching, Leaf and Snow Removal
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Contact information

7219 Weil Ave, Saint Louis, MO 63119

http://www.AllenOutdoorSTL.com

Service hours

Monday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Tuesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Wednesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Thursday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Friday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM