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C & L Ward Brothers Co

Windows, Roofing, Doors,

About us

Additional DBA - C & L Ward Bros Co, C & L Ward Brothers. Three convenient locations! Additional address - Flint/Saginaw Market, 9284 Lapeer Rd. Davison MI 48423, 1385 S. Huron, Kawkawlin. MI 48631, Detroit Market, 41460 Grand River Ave, Novi. MI 48375. Additional Phone number - (810) 653 3719, (989) 684 3360, (517) 679 0588, (248) 468 1069.

Business highlights

52 years of trusted experience

Services we offer

Andersen Windows, roofing, doors, siding, decking, gutters, closets, attic insulation

Amenities

Free Estimates
Yes
Warranties
Yes


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Reviews

3.9131 Reviews
Number of StarsImage of DistributionNumber of Ratings
5
51%
4
16%
3
8%
2
7%
1
18%


Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
4.2
value
3.9
professionalism
4.1
responsiveness
3.9
punctuality
4.1
Showing 51-75 of 131 reviews

Jim R.
05/2013
5.0
gutter repair
  + -1 more
Went Very Well. Removed Old Gutters and Downspouts and Installed new. Project was done and cleaned up before we came home from work.
Description of Work: New Gutters and Downspouts

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
4.0
responsiveness
4.0
punctuality
4.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$1,300

Mona S.
05/2013
5.0
replacement windows
  + -1 more
From the initial contact with the sales person to the final contact with the installers we were very pleased with this company. They delivered and installed the products in a timely manner. Also, they honored a small discount because I entered a contest thru our local radio station and was awarded $250. to use toward any window purchase. I had already submitted my order before the contest, so I was pleased that it was still honored.
Description of Work: Installed a housefull of new windows

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$8,000

Laura M.
05/2013
2.0
replacement windows
  + -1 more
It's been 2 months and I haven't heard back from this company. When I called them, I was on hold for 26 minutes. I called on my cell phone while still on hold and the person who answered said they would have the woman in charge call me back ASAP. Well, guess what? She never called me back either.
Description of Work: I bought Andersen windows from them in 2003. Then they were an A or a B. This March I discovered a leak in my kitchen window and called them. A person came out a few days later and told me I needed the window completely replaced and promised me he would order it and it should be in the store in about 2 weeks, then they would call me to come out and install it.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
2.0
value
3.0
professionalism
1.0
responsiveness
1.0
punctuality
1.0

$5,000

Joanne A.
04/2013
2.0
siding, replacement windows
  + 0 more
estimate from cand l ward on 10/05/2012. appointment on 11/05/2012 to repair fascia.they didn't show up.on 11/09/2012 rescheduled for 11/20/2012. repaired one side of fascia.the repairman then asked if I wanted the other side of the fascia repaired.I said that's what was in the estimate,he said he didn't have the materials and the right size latter with him and he would have to come back later. finished the job on 11/28/2012. shouldn't have taken 3 weeks to do a one hour job. should've told me they couldn't make their appt. date.I had to call them to find out what was going on.
Description of Work: replaced damaged fascia on west side of house.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
3.0
value
3.0
professionalism
2.0
responsiveness
2.0
punctuality
2.0

$449

Garrett H.
03/2013
5.0
replacement windows
  + -1 more
Personal presentation, written quote, arrival on time, work performed well, clean-up. Couple years later very responsive to re-seal of window.
Description of Work: 2 large windows replaced.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$2,000

Georgia S.
03/2013
4.0
gutter repair
  + -1 more
C and L Ward Brothers did a good job that is still holding up. They did what I expected them to do. They came in, did their measurements, they went back to their truck and cut the down spouts, put them up, and then they were gone. They didn't leave a mess or anything. They do a good job.
Description of Work: I used C & L Ward Brothers to put up some soffits and down spouts.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
4.0
punctuality
4.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

Richard S. E.
02/2013
1.0
contractors, doors
  + 0 more
I had a bad experience with them 12 years ago because they hung the door off-plumb. They then came back out and did a poor job of trying to fix it. Instead of resetting the frame they tried to just jigger the door in the frame. I would never use them again for anything. For a carpenter to not address a square and plumb situation is not acceptable.
Description of Work: I used C & L Ward Brothers to install an entry door system consisting of two sidelights and a leaded glass top door.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
1.0
value
4.0
professionalism
1.0
responsiveness
1.0
punctuality
4.0

$4,000

Response from C & L Ward Brothers Co
I apologize for your bad experience in 2001, even though it has been twelve years, our top priority is complete customer satisfaction. I would be willing to have our Installation Manager meet at your home to correct this situation. Please contact me at your convienence to arrange a date/time that will work with your schedule. Once again, my sincere apologies for this situation. Sincerely, Patrick Ward - President

Stephanie J.
02/2013
3.0
roofing
  + -1 more
Excerpts copied from a letter to the owner: We received your letter and your gift box from Oliver T’s yesterday, and I would first like to say, “Thank you”. I sure wish you had called me instead. It turns out that the delayed installation date was just the first of our concerns – and the one you had least control over, as it was caused by the rainy weather. I would have liked to discuss our entire experience with you. Allow me to summarize: 1. We had to be in Florida during your installation. This meant we had to rely upon our neighbors to oversee the process, and we ended up with two very upset dogs, who had to be alone in the house while strangers were pounding everywhere. No big deal, but our neighbors also had to remind the roofers to remove the underlayment from the chimney or our dogs would have died from carbon monoxide poisoning. Not fun to hear about from hundreds of miles away. 2. We arrived home to find our home’s power line, still connected, on the ground in the back yard. It took days for someone to get back to me to say that your company hadn’t removed it for your workers’ safety, which was our assumption, as we’ve lived here since 1985 with no power line problems. We agree, after hearing about the weather from neighbors and friends, that it probably was the weather while we were gone. And your company sent a very nice guy to ensure it was securely fastened after Consumers Energy put it back up. Thank you for that. 3. We also arrived home to find part of our upstairs bathroom ceiling on the floor. I jumped the gun on this one, as our exchange student reported the entire ceiling as on the floor, and I reported the same to the person I was leaving a message for. It probably was not unusual for this to happen, but if we’d been advised of it as a possibility, we would have put up a couple plaster washers to prevent this. We’ve fixed the holes and are repainting the ceiling. Not a big deal, really. 4. We now have an area of our upstairs master bedroom ceiling with water damage. It’s less than a foot in diameter, and mostly areas of drop-sized peeling latex ceiling paint. This area appeared while we were in Florida and the house was being reroofed. Could have been delayed damage from our aging roof, but a heck of a coincidence. Again, we plan to repaint. 5. Now comes the truly irritating part. The soffit/fascia company sent two guys out. They spoke to my husband and asked, “Are you getting your gutters done?” and he said, “Yeah, I think so”. Well, the assumption that the man of the house made the decisions on this and knew the contract was in error. And the man of the house heard this question as, “Are you getting your gutters covered?” while the soffit guys heard his answer as “We’re getting our gutters replaced.” So they tore off our gutters. That cost you new gutters for our home. Thank you for not having to argue about this. But there’s a big ‘but’ coming… 6. The soffit and gutter guys put on the soffits and fascia at an angle to accommodate a crown molding. I don’t know why they left the crown molding when the goal of the project was to remove anything we’d have to maintain. And this left us with having to have our gutters installed at an angle, which means that we can NOT have gutter guards installed, as the new gutters are hanging from T-bars. We have large silver maples in our yard that shed ‘propeller’ seeds in the spring and huge amounts of leaves in the fall. This means two gutter cleanings a year, and the attending risk to the person and the gutters. 7. Todd Walker, our estimator, believed that you could do our aluminum sunroom/ “Michigan room” roof with a roll product called “Flintlastic”. He was in error. It turns out that your company can’t roof our sunroom at all. Again, this took more than one phone call to resolve. I’m sure you can understand my concern about having two contractors for one home’s roofing. I chose Cand L Ward after doing research on Consumers Reports (which lead to the Dow Corning CertainTeed products), and on Angie’s List, and by checking the Better Business Bureau online and calling friends who work for two large area law firms about who they sue. We had three companies give us estimates, and although the other two were lower in price, we felt we were getting a roof system that would be maintenance- and trouble-free for many years to come. Your gift box was nice, and your office staff is pleasant, but I sure would have preferred to have a roof with gutter guards. Now we’ll have to arrange for twice-annual gutter cleaning. I’m sure you know what fun it is to find someone to work two and a half stories about ground, and that it’s expensive. Todd may need better understanding of the products he’s selling, and your communication with your subcontractors may need improving. I’m withholding my opinion of your company for Angie’s List until I hear from you. I hope it will be soon after Christmas. Note: they were able to install different gutter guards so that we could get them after all. But as the final 'doofus' moment for them - they forgot to do the sunroom. They'd bid on doing the roofing AND gutter guards for the sunroom, then couldn't do the roofing because they didn't carry the right stuff for an aluminum roof. But they HAD bid and I'd signed a contract for gutter guards for all. My conclusion: a great company with a superb product and very, very good intentions - but with TERRIBLE internal communications. I think we'll be very happy with our roof and gutters for a long time to come (it's now over a year later with no problems). But I had about eight and quot;WHAT NOW?!and quot; moments that could have been avoided if they'd all just COMMUNICATED with each other. I was on edge after the first few such discoveries because I'd become convinced that the company was incompetent. But you know, the flashing and soffits are superb, and if there are problems and Cand L Ward were to go out of business, Dow would back up the guarantee.
Description of Work: We asked for: 1. A new roof for our home, last reroofed in 1986, when it was taken down to the studs. C&L Ward bid included removing all old boards and taking down to studs again. 2. A new roof for our four-season sunroom orginallly installed by Eurich Brothers. It was leaking from damage. Room was 14x16. 3. Soffits for entire home. 4. Flashing everywhere needed. (We had a lot of sloppy tar work from original roofers - Sheriff-Goslin - from 1986 - but no leaks). 5. Gutter guards for regular and sunroom roofs.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
4.0
professionalism
2.0
responsiveness
2.0
punctuality
2.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$9,500

Claudia J H.
01/2013
5.0
gutter repair, roofing, replacement windows, doors
  + 2 more
Overall it went very well. We have several projects taken care of by this company over the years--each one was a good experience. We were given an estimate ahead of time and scheduled the project. It was originally to be done a few months earlier but there was a lot of rain at that time so the project was pushed back then we had a family emergency and we had to delay. When the project was finally done we were pleased with the work. They had to return for a minor problem( loose shingles) and that was taken care of. As I said we were very satisfied with our experience.
Description of Work: We had part of the roof replaced.
Rating CategoryRating out of 5
Yes, I recommend this pro
$6,000

barbara B.
01/2013
5.0
gutter repair
  + -1 more
Our in-home consultant, Bennett Sevak, was knowledgeable and very helpful as to our needs. He took the time to hand write out a detailed proposal of all of the gutter work that would be performed and the manner in which it would be performed, including size and color of the gutters, how and where each section of the gutters would be installed and their intended function, the types of hangers to be used, etc. The proposal also included statements as to removal of all old existing materials and all work related debris from the site, as well as their workmanship gurarantee. All work was completed within a reasonable period of time.
Description of Work: We were very pleased with the estimate process and work performed and would recommend C & L Ward for gutter replacement.
Rating CategoryRating out of 5
Yes, I recommend this pro
$2,200

Gerri D.
01/2013
5.0
roofing
  + -1 more
The service was excellent. They had good customer service, they were prompt, and cleaned up after themselves. I love our new roof.
Description of Work: They put a new roof on.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

John H.
01/2013
5.0
roofing
  + -1 more
They were wonderful and did a beautiful job.
Description of Work: Installed a new roof.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

clenio O.
12/2012
3.0
roofing
  + -1 more
Everything was very cordial, and professional. Only the price was too expensive.
Description of Work: I got estimates from many different companies. C & L Ward Brothers Co's estimate was the most expensive one. On top of that, they don't have a good review on AL. I decided to go with another company.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
professionalism
4.0
responsiveness
1.0
punctuality
1.0


Eric S.
12/2012
5.0
replacement windows
  + -1 more
Everything was done to our complete satisfaction. The Sales rep completely explained the product options and features and the company's warranties, the Project Manager kept us informed every step of the way, and the installation crew was prompt, courteous and professional. The installation went quickly and smoothly, and they did a great job cleaning up afterward.
Description of Work: We replaced several casement windows in our home with Andersen windows. C&L Ward provided a project manager who stayed in contact with us from project estimation thru installation.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$10,000

Burt K.
08/2012
3.0
roofing
  + -1 more
I did not use Cand L Ward. Although their representative was punctual and very professional, their estimate for replacement of our roof came in at $10,340 with 'Titanium' sheathing, $9,590 with regular felt sheathing and 20 yr Tamco 3-Tab asphalt shingles. 5yr guarantee on workmanship. Additional plywood would be charged at $35 per sheet. The contractor we chose did a very good job. Their initial estimate was $7,600 for CertainTeed Landmark 3-tab asphalt shingles with a 12yr workmanship guarantee. With the addition of ten sheets of plywood and extensive carpentry required on the front sofet, my total price was $8,032.
Description of Work: Estimate for tear-off and replacement of roof.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
value
1.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

$8,032

Response from C & L Ward Brothers Co
I am sorry that we were unable to earn your business on your recent roofing project. Over our 40-yrs in business, we have prided ourselves on having competitive pricing on all of the products we carry. We will not always be the "cheapest" bid on the street, however, we typically provide the greatest long-term value when compared with other companies. Thanks for the feedback and I wish you the best with your new roof. Sincerely, Patrick Ward - President

Gail P.
08/2012
5.0
replacement windows
  + -1 more
They were not pushy and on time. I recommend this company.
Description of Work: I used C&L Ward Brothers to quote on replacing 4 windows.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$4,000

Linda R.
07/2012
5.0
siding, replacement windows, doors
  + 1 more
It was a very professional experience from start to finish. It started with a representative coming out for a home visit, bringing samples of various material choices. He spent at least 3 hours and brought to my attention details that I would not have thought of. He was very cognizant about matching / coordinating the materials to fit in well with my existing structure/decor. By the time he left, I had a written estimate with expected completion date in hand. The next step was a visit from the Project Manager, who re-measured and verified everything. A Project Coordinator arranged the actual work dates once the materials arrived, and she responded promptly to my phone and/or e-mail messages to answer my questions. The work crew was excellent. I was very pleased with every aspect of their work and their responsiveness (it should be noted that I am known to be a and quot;pickyand quot; person, with attention to detail that can be annoying to some people!). I would not hesitate to recommend them to a family member or friend. Their customer service is outstanding -- something that is difficult to find today!
Description of Work: They applied siding to dormers, front porch, and around a bay window; replaced a window; and put in a front door with side lights.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$5,000

Brianna U.
06/2012
5.0
remodeling, siding, replacement windows, window treatments
  + 2 more
The sales man was very friendly and knowledgeable about his products. He understood that we were collecting estimates and didn't try to pressure us to "sign today" as most companies do. While we were very impressed with the quality and professionalism, it was out of our budget and we chose to go with the less expensive company. We would definitely recommend anyone looking for siding or really nice windows to give them a call!
Description of Work: We received an estimate for siding and windows.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
3.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

David R.
06/2012
4.0
roofing
  + -1 more
The salesman was professional and answered all of our questions. However, we understood that the job would be completed by their own employees but we believe the actual roofers were contractors to Cand L Ward. They did give us a better deal for signing up that day vs deciding at a later date. Cand L was prompt whenever we contacted them. They had someone come out to measure the roof and then someone came out after the job was complete to see how it went. They also had a project manager that contacted us to say she would be available if we had concerns. The 3 reasons we did not give them an A was (1) they could not give us an address of another job using the same color shingles we had selected -- we were looking at 3 different colors and wanted to be able to see them on a building instead on going off pictures; (2) we wanted an official document on the 5 year labor warranty but Cand L said it was on the proposal and they do not give out any other warranty documents -- since the proposal is on carbon paper we are concerned the print will fade; (3) we had understood the job would be done by employees instead of contractors. The actual roofing crew was excellent. They were professional, respectful and did a fantastic job of cleaning up. We had no damage to the yard. The crew did an excellent and quality job. We rated them an and quot;Aand quot;.
Description of Work: Tear off all shingles and inspect the roof deck for loose or rotted wood. Install 6' ice/water shield on all eave edges and 36'' in all valleys and around all protrusions. Install titanium 25 synthetic underlayment. Install all new flashings as needed including step cards, counter flashing, apron metal, vent pipe boots and wide face aluminum drip edge (natural clay). Install Tamko 30 year dimensional shingles. Install shingle vent II edge vent. Install hip and ridge cap to match. Clean up and remove all job related debris. Included 5 year transferable labor warranty.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$16,400

Thomas A N.
06/2012
4.0
roofing
  + -1 more
Overall the experience was ok. They provided an estimate on the spot and I learned the estimate was about 25% high. I sent an e-mail to the Salesaman to let him know I had signed a contract with another company. He never did respond.
Description of Work: We called C & L Ward for an estimate for a new roof. They did respond quickly and came out to provide the estimate at my convenience. They did a nice job of explaining their roofing services and provided me with an estimate on the spot. I thought the estimate was high and when I obtained other estimates, I found the C & L Ward estimate was about 25% high. I do plan to check with them again in the future for other services, but I will make sure I have at least 3 other prices.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
professionalism
4.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro

Response from C & L Ward Brothers Co
Dear Angie's List Member, Thanks for sharing your experience about our company. I was perplexed to learn that our proposal was 25% higher than your lowest bid. Over our 40-years in business, we have prided ourselves on providing industry leading products and exceptional customer service - all at a competitive price. Since 1972, we have completed over 30,000 home improvement projects for our clients - many of their comments and survey scores can be reviewed at www.GuildQuality.com (an independent third-party surveying company). If you have any additional questions or would like to review the proposals in greater detail for an "apples to apples" comparison, please feel free to contact me directly. Sincerely, Patrick Ward - President 810-503-1163

Peggy O.
05/2012
5.0
replacement windows, doors
  + 0 more
We needed someone to install a new door in our garage (small door). A friend told us this place did great work and that's what we wanted so we called. This guy named Kevin called and came out, was very professional and had good manners. We told him we had all the necessities and he checked and went to work. He knew exactly what he was doing and quite quickly. He told us we needed barrier so that the wood wouldn't rot and since we didn't have it he said he had some in his truck and could use it if we wanted. He used that at no extra cost to us. He finished and picked up all his mess and put it in his truck.It looks and works great! Mission accomplished-and pleased!
Description of Work: Take out old door and trim around it. Replace with new door and affix the knobs and locks.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$200

sandy A.
05/2012
5.0
remodeling
  + -1 more
They have been very prompt and reliable so far. They always call to let you know when they are coming out. They really analyze the situation well and make the correct repairs. They really stand by their work if anything happens. They had to come back out to replace some glass that had broken. The guy that comes out is very personable. He is very knowledgeable and really has creative ideas about how to fix a problem. They have different teams of workers they can utilize for each specific job you need done.
Description of Work: I had them restore a solar room for me.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$3,000

JULIA D.
05/2012
1.0
siding, replacement windows, doors
  + 1 more
Don't ever hire Cand L Ward.
Description of Work: Signed a contract in July 2011 for new windows, front door, and siding. I put 50% down and they told me that they would start installation in September. In September I receive a telephone call that my windows, doors, and siding were in the warehouse. They said they would call back with a date for installation. I finally got a call saying their crew was ready. They also promised that the project manager would double check everything and keep the project on task. The crew (only two men) started the project and it was supposed to take three days. Oh, when they showed up they didn't have any paperwork on the scope of the project or the front door that I was promised was painted and ready to be installed. Five days into the project they are finally finishing the exterior and the quality of workmanship was terrible. Cracked plaster on the inside of my home, the freshly painted new door looked like a High School workshop project. The project manager never showed and I reported my complaint to the company. The gentleman that came to review the workmanship agreed to replace the door and I received credit for the interior damage to my plaster walls. Great, another three-four days off work to correct their mistakes. After five more months, still no call from C&L Ward, I contacted them. I emailed Pat Ward directly and he said he would take care of it. Several weeks later, a new crew arrived with a new door and finished the job. Do yourself a favor...DON'T HIRE C&L WARD.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
2.0
value
2.0
professionalism
2.0
responsiveness
1.0
punctuality
1.0

$18,000

Response from C & L Ward Brothers Co
As a company that has been in business for 40-years, I will openly admit this job was not completed as efficiently as it should have been. I feel it is only fair to share that the job WAS eventually completed to this customer's satisfaction. In addition, the customer received an additional project discount to cover the additional time incurred while we completed the project. The customer was also reimbursed 100% for the plaster repair/painting that was completed by a different company. C&L Ward will never run or hide from problems that may occur during major home improvement projects, rather, we work with our customer to resolve the issues to their satisfaction. This is the sole reason that we have been in business since 1972 and have over 25,000 satisfied customers. For the customer: As I previously shared in our e-mail correspondence, I do appreciate your candid remarks and will be sharing them with our managers to ensure that similar situations are handled differently. If anything else is needed, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Heather M.
04/2012
5.0
garage doors, gutter repair, siding, replacement windows, doors
  + 3 more
They had good references. They printed out their Angie's List report. Their salesman was very nice and very helpful. The prices were wonderful.
Description of Work: They provided 11 new windows, a new front door, 2 new garage doors, a new back door and all new siding.

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
5.0
professionalism
5.0
responsiveness
5.0
punctuality
5.0

Yes, I recommend this pro
$40,000

Stephanie J.
03/2012
3.0
gutter repair, roofing
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Ironically, all the work SEEMS to have been of high quality. We didn't get to be home while it was being done, though. I didn't care that the start of the project was delayed by rains, and was surprised to get a gift box from the company, which is what prompted my sending the letter. I *DID* care that their communication with their subcontractors was so poor that I had to become the project manager. I may have been nitpicking with the damage to the bathroom ceiling (about 18and quot; round) and the bedroom ceiling (paint blistering from a leak?, also about 18and quot; around), but it was just more straws on the camel's back. I used a Bad Word in talking with their office person when I found out that yet again they had NOT finished the job, but I did apologize immediately. I maintained a courteous demeanor with all. I would also note that I withheld $75 of the final payment so I could ensure that I would get the gutter guarantee, which had been dropped off by the gutter company, signed by Cand L Ward - I sent all but the last $75 with the form and a self-addressed, stamped envelope, asking that they have an officer sign it and return it to me. They were VERY efficient in attempting to collect this finaly $75. Two phone calls and two letters. For the final $75 on a $16,000 job, and the $75 was less than 40 days overdue (and I was waiting to get my guarantee signed). If they managed their CLIENT and subcontractor communication as carefully as getting their money, it would have been a very good experience. The roof and especially the flashing (no tar slopping for them) looks superb four months later. But I'm still irritated at the number of phone calls I had to make, and the number of times I said, and quot;Oh, JEEZ, what NOW with the roofers?!!!and quot; They lost my trust early on and kept dropping the ball with communication.
Description of Work: Patrick Ward C&L Ward 9284 Lapeer Road Davison, MI 48423 Dear Mr. Ward We received your letter and your gift box from Oliver T’s yesterday, and I would first like to say, “Thank you”. I sure wish you had called me instead. It turns out that the delayed installation date was just the first of our concerns – and the one you had least control over, as it was caused by the rainy weather. I would have liked to discuss our entire experience with you. Allow me to summarize: 1. We had to be in Florida during your installation. This meant we had to rely upon our neighbors to oversee the process, and we ended up with two very upset dogs, who had to be alone in the house while strangers were pounding everywhere. No big deal, but our neighbors also had to remind the roofers to remove the underlayment from the chimney or our dogs would have died from carbon monoxide poisoning. Not fun to hear about from hundreds of miles away. 2. We arrived home to find our home’s power line, still connected, on the ground in the back yard. It took days for someone to get back to me to say that your company hadn’t removed it for your workers’ safety, which was our assumption, as we’ve lived here since 1985 with no power line problems. We agree, after hearing about the weather from neighbors and friends, that it probably was the weather while we were gone. And your company sent a very nice guy to ensure it was securely fastened after Consumers Energy put it back up. Thank you for that. 3. We also arrived home to find part of our upstairs bathroom ceiling on the floor. I jumped the gun on this one, as our exchange student reported the entire ceiling as on the floor, and I reported the same to the person I was leaving a message for. It probably was not unusual for this to happen, but if we’d been advised of it as a possibility, we would have put up a couple plaster washers to prevent this. We’ve fixed the holes and are repainting the ceiling. Not a big deal, really. 4. We now have an area of our upstairs master bedroom ceiling with water damage. It’s less than a foot in diameter, and mostly areas of drop-sized peeling latex ceiling paint. This area appeared while we were in Florida and the house was being reroofed. Could have been delayed damage from our aging roof, but a heck of a coincidence. Again, we plan to repaint. 5. Now comes the truly irritating part. The soffit/fascia company sent two guys out. They spoke to my husband and asked, “Are you getting your gutters done?” and he said, “Yeah, I think so”. Well, the assumption that the man of the house made the decisions on this and knew the contract was in error. And the man of the house heard this question as, “Are you getting your gutters covered?” while the soffit guys heard it as “We’re getting our gutters replaced.” So they tore off our gutters. That cost you new gutters for our home. Thank you for not having to argue about this. But there’s a big ‘but’ coming… 6. The soffit and gutter guys put on the soffits and fascia at an angle to accommodate a crown molding. I don’t know why they left the crown molding when the goal of the project was to remove anything we’d have to maintain. And this left us with having to have our gutters installed at an angle, which means that we can NOT have gutter guards installed, as the new gutters are hanging from T-bars. We have large silver maples in our yard that shed ‘propeller’ seeds in the spring and huge amounts of leaves in the fall. This means two gutter cleanings a year, and the attending risk to the person and the gutters. 7. Todd Walker, our estimator, believed that you could do our aluminum sunroom/“Michigan room” roof with a roll product called “Flintlastic”. He was in error. It turns out that your company can’t roof our sunroom at all. Again, this took more than one phone call to resolve. I’m sure you can understand my concern about having two contractors for one home’s roofing. I chose C&L Ward after doing research on Consumers Reports (which lead to the Dow Corning CertainTeed products), and on Angie’s List, and by checking the Better Business Bureau online and calling friends who work for two large area law firms about who they sue. We had three companies give us estimates, and although the other two were lower in price, we felt we were getting a roof system that would be maintenance- and trouble-free for many years to come. Your gift box was nice, and your office staff is pleasant, but I sure would have preferred to have a roof with gutter guards. Now we’ll have to arrange for twice-annual gutter cleaning. I’m sure you know what fun it is to find someone to work two and a half stories about ground, and that it’s expensive. Todd may need better understanding of the products he’s selling, and your communication with your subcontractors may need improving. I’m withholding my opinion of your company for Angie’s List until I hear from you. I hope it will be soon after Christmas. AFTER this letter, I got a phone call from Patrick. He listened carefully and apologized. He said that yes, they CAN put up gutter guards, just a different kind. (Rather than a lid, they're a type of cellular foam that gets cut to fill the gutter.) I was very excited and pleased and said yes, we would like to have that done. I reminded him that his contract included doing the gutters for our sunroom, even though his company had finally concluded that they could not do the roofing. I asked him to remind the gutter people. He sent the 'gutter people' out to take care of it. They came in a day or two - the same subcontracting company. They did a good job quickly and were friendly. Then, 2 weeks later, I happened to look out our upstairs bathroom window and notice that the sunroom gutters had NOT been done. I called the office without waiting to calm down and used a Bad Word with the innocent woman on the line. Dave MacKenzie, their project manager, responded with a phone call. He came out in a day or two, as promised, and installed the solid gutter foam stuff in the sunroom gutters himself. He gave me his card and asked me to call him if I ever have any more problems. ---- Update in December 2012, a year later. The roofing job still seems superb, as does the soffiting. The gutter filling devices aren't the greatest. Leaves still pile up at the spots where the roof valleys have 'splash guards' to keep the water from shooting out over the gutters, and then the water leaks over the leaf piles. So we're still cleaning gutterings, but only in 2 spots. The gutters are tough, good looking, don't leak, and have tolerated high winds. In reflection, I think that 90% of the problems were the communication. The job manager needed to communicate with us, with the subcontractors for gutters and soffits/fascia, and communicate to follow-up with them and with us. I think that six phone calls would have prevented all the hard feelings on our part. I'm still puzzled as to why the company sent us a gift box early in the game because they were 'late' getting the roof on. We had, ironically, had phone calls informing us why the roof was late, and we didn't care... But I sure did care when our gutters got torn off when we weren't buying new gutters (but it worked out - new free gutters!), and when the molding piece kept us from being able to have our choice of gutter COVER installed, versus the gutter filling device. So I've raised the grade to a "C". Communication, folks. Communicate!

Rating CategoryRating out of 5
quality
5.0
value
3.0
professionalism
1.0
responsiveness
2.0
punctuality
3.0

$16,000

Contact information

9284 Lapeer Rd, Davison, MI 48423

http://www.GoCLWard.com

Service hours

Monday:
8:00 AM - 7:00 PM
Tuesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Wednesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Thursday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Friday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Saturday:
9:00 AM - 1:00 PM

Licensing

Insured

Licensed*

Eco-friendly Accreditations

LEED Accredited Professional
No
Energy Star Partner
Yes
EPA Lead-Safe Certified
Yes
Use Green Products or Work Practices
Yes
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Service Categories

Windows,
Roofing,
Doors,
Siding,
Gutters,
Unfinished Carpentry,
General Remodeling,
Garage Doors,
Window Treatments,
Decks and Porches,
Skylights,
Egress Windows

FAQ

C & L Ward Brothers Co is currently rated 3.9 overall out of 5.

Monday: 8:00 AM - 7:00 PM

Tuesday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Wednesday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Thursday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Friday: 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Saturday: 9:00 AM - 1:00 PM

C & L Ward Brothers Co accepts the following forms of payment: Check,Discover,Financing Available,MasterCard,Visa
Yes, C & L Ward Brothers Co offers free project estimates.
Yes, C & L Ward Brothers Co offers eco-friendly accreditations.
No, C & L Ward Brothers Co does not offer a senior discount.
No, C & L Ward Brothers Co does not offer emergency services.
Yes, C & L Ward Brothers Co offers warranties.
C & L Ward Brothers Co offers the following services: Andersen Windows, roofing, doors, siding, decking, gutters, closets, attic insulation

Contact information

9284 Lapeer Rd, Davison, MI 48423

http://www.GoCLWard.com

Service hours

Monday:
8:00 AM - 7:00 PM
Tuesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Wednesday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Thursday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Friday:
8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Saturday:
9:00 AM - 1:00 PM