C & L Ward Brothers Co
About us
Additional DBA - C & L Ward Bros Co, C & L Ward Brothers. Three convenient locations! Additional address - Flint/Saginaw Market, 9284 Lapeer Rd. Davison MI 48423, 1385 S. Huron, Kawkawlin. MI 48631, Detroit Market, 41460 Grand River Ave, Novi. MI 48375. Additional Phone number - (810) 653 3719, (989) 684 3360, (517) 679 0588, (248) 468 1069.
Business highlights
Services we offer
Andersen Windows, attic insulation, closets, decking, doors, gutters, roofing, siding
Amenities
Free Estimates
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
- CreditCard
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"Dear Mr & Mrs [removed member name], I apologize for the air infiltration problems with your new windows and the lack of communication from our service department. I will make certain that we send our senior technician out to your home to troubleshoot and correct the problem. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please contact me directly at 810-503-1163. Sincerely, Patrick Ward - President"
"Dear (removed member name), I apologize for the delay replacing the lock cylinder on your entry door. We value your trust in choosing C&L Ward and will work promplty to get this matter resolved. Our records indicate that our service technician visited your home for inspection on August 8. He determined that the lock cylinder on your door handle needed to be replaced. The lock cylinder was ordered immediatley and is now in and ready for replacement. We will contact you today to schedule a date that we can finalize this service request. Once again, my apologies for the delay and lack of communication from our company. Should you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact me directly. Thanks, Patrick Ward President 810-503-1163"
My wife called the C and L to setup one trip appointment for both houses. Since they are two locations, Cand L charged us for the trip fee $75 + $50 (discount for the 2nd one). It is OK so far, because it was pre-agreement. My wife explicityly asked for the windows repair dept.
The repair guy came on time for the first house, opened and closed the window that is hard to lock, tried couple times. He concluded he can't fix it and it can be only replaced. I was sure the window is fine, because it looked like new. so I did not take his suggestion and moved on to the 2nd house. Hope he could do some repairs.
For the second house, he tried to open and close all four windows, again concluded he can do nothing other than replacing them for new ones. I told him the windows are fine but window and its frame light touched. He said he can't repair it, because he can't do anything that is a part of the frame.
So, he left with $125 and had nothing done. I ended up fixing them myself by resurfacing bottom boards, so they will not touch the windows.
"Dear Member, I sincerely apologize that you are unhappy with our service & repair department. I understand your frustration as it can be frustrating when older home products cannot be fixed and should really be replaced. Our window service technicians have been factory trained to replace the glass and/or parts on the window that are not properly working. Unfortunately, we do not sand or refinish windows since that can effect the structural integrity of the product. Should you decide to replace your windows, please provide your service receipt to our representative and I will gladly apply the entire amount towards the purchase of new windows. Once again, I apologize that our team did not meet your expectations. Thank-you, Patrick Ward President"
They delivered and installed the products in a timely manner.
Also, they honored a small discount because I entered a contest thru our local radio station and was awarded $250. to use toward any window purchase. I had already submitted my order before the contest, so I was pleased that it was still honored.
appointment on 11/05/2012 to repair fascia.they didn't show up.on 11/09/2012 rescheduled for 11/20/2012.
repaired one side of fascia.the repairman then asked if I wanted the other side of the fascia repaired.I said that's what was in the
estimate,he said he didn't have the materials and the right size latter with him and he would have to come back later.
finished the job on 11/28/2012.
shouldn't have taken 3 weeks to do a one hour job.
should've told me they couldn't make their appt. date.I had to call them to find out what was going on.
"I apologize for your bad experience in 2001, even though it has been twelve years, our top priority is complete customer satisfaction. I would be willing to have our Installation Manager meet at your home to correct this situation. Please contact me at your convienence to arrange a date/time that will work with your schedule. Once again, my sincere apologies for this situation. Sincerely, Patrick Ward - President"
We received your letter and your gift box from Oliver T’s yesterday, and I would first like to say, “Thank you”.
I sure wish you had called me instead. It turns out that the delayed installation date was just the first of our concerns – and the one you had least control over, as it was caused by the rainy weather. I would have liked to discuss our entire experience with you. Allow me to summarize:
1. We had to be in Florida during your installation. This meant we had to rely upon our neighbors to oversee the process, and we ended up with two very upset dogs, who had to be alone in the house while strangers were pounding everywhere. No big deal, but our neighbors also had to remind the roofers to remove the underlayment from the chimney or our dogs would have died from carbon monoxide poisoning. Not fun to hear about from hundreds of miles away.
2. We arrived home to find our home’s power line, still connected, on the ground in the back yard. It took days for someone to get back to me to say that your company hadn’t removed it for your workers’ safety, which was our assumption, as we’ve lived here since 1985 with no power line problems. We agree, after hearing about the weather from neighbors and friends, that it probably was the weather while we were gone. And your company sent a very nice guy to ensure it was securely fastened after Consumers Energy put it back up. Thank you for that.
3. We also arrived home to find part of our upstairs bathroom ceiling on the floor. I jumped the gun on this one, as our exchange student reported the entire ceiling as on the floor, and I reported the same to the person I was leaving a message for. It probably was not unusual for this to happen, but if we’d been advised of it as a possibility, we would have put up a couple plaster washers to prevent this. We’ve fixed the holes and are repainting the ceiling. Not a big deal, really.
4. We now have an area of our upstairs master bedroom ceiling with water damage. It’s less than a foot in diameter, and mostly areas of drop-sized peeling latex ceiling paint. This area appeared while we were in Florida and the house was being reroofed. Could have been delayed damage from our aging roof, but a heck of a coincidence. Again, we plan to repaint.
5. Now comes the truly irritating part. The soffit/fascia company sent two guys out. They spoke to my husband and asked, “Are you getting your gutters done?” and he said, “Yeah, I think so”. Well, the assumption that the man of the house made the decisions on this and knew the contract was in error. And the man of the house heard this question as, “Are you getting your gutters covered?” while the soffit guys heard his answer as “We’re getting our gutters replaced.” So they tore off our gutters. That cost you new gutters for our home. Thank you for not having to argue about this. But there’s a big ‘but’ coming…
6. The soffit and gutter guys put on the soffits and fascia at an angle to accommodate a crown molding. I don’t know why they left the crown molding when the goal of the project was to remove anything we’d have to maintain. And this left us with having to have our gutters installed at an angle, which means that we can NOT have gutter guards installed, as the new gutters are hanging from T-bars. We have large silver maples in our yard that shed ‘propeller’ seeds in the spring and huge amounts of leaves in the fall. This means two gutter cleanings a year, and the attending risk to the person and the gutters.
7. Todd Walker, our estimator, believed that you could do our aluminum sunroom/
“Michigan room” roof with a roll product called “Flintlastic”. He was in error. It turns out that your company can’t roof our sunroom at all. Again, this took more than one phone call to resolve. I’m sure you can understand my concern about having two contractors for one home’s roofing.
I chose Cand L Ward after doing research on Consumers Reports (which lead to the Dow Corning CertainTeed products), and on Angie’s List, and by checking the Better Business Bureau online and calling friends who work for two large area law firms about who they sue. We had three companies give us estimates, and although the other two were lower in price, we felt we were getting a roof system that would be maintenance- and trouble-free for many years to come.
Your gift box was nice, and your office staff is pleasant, but I sure would have preferred to have a roof with gutter guards. Now we’ll have to arrange for twice-annual gutter cleaning. I’m sure you know what fun it is to find someone to work two and a half stories about ground, and that it’s expensive. Todd may need better understanding of the products he’s selling, and your communication with your subcontractors may need improving. I’m withholding my opinion of your company for Angie’s List until I hear from you. I hope it will be soon after Christmas.
Note: they were able to install different gutter guards so that we could get them after all. But as the final 'doofus' moment for them - they forgot to do the sunroom. They'd bid on doing the roofing AND gutter guards for the sunroom, then couldn't do the roofing because they didn't carry the right stuff for an aluminum roof. But they HAD bid and I'd signed a contract for gutter guards for all.
My conclusion: a great company with a superb product and very, very good intentions - but with TERRIBLE internal communications. I think we'll be very happy with our roof and gutters for a long time to come (it's now over a year later with no problems). But I had about eight and quot;WHAT NOW?!and quot; moments that could have been avoided if they'd all just COMMUNICATED with each other. I was on edge after the first few such discoveries because I'd become convinced that the company was incompetent. But you know, the flashing and soffits are superb, and if there are problems and Cand L Ward were to go out of business, Dow would back up the guarantee.
The actual roofing crew was excellent. They were professional, respectful and did a fantastic job of cleaning up. We had no damage to the yard. The crew did an excellent and quality job. We rated them an and quot;Aand quot;.
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